Performance Chat Summary: 11 March 2025

<div style&equals;"text-align&colon;center"><&sol;div><div>&NewLine;<p>The full chat log is available beginning <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;archives&sol;C02KGN5K076&sol;p1741708859096019">here on Slack<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2 class&equals;"wp-block-heading"><strong>WordPress Performance Trac tickets<&sol;strong><&sol;h2>&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> The <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;org&sol;news&sol;2025&sol;03&sol;wordpress-6-8-beta-2&sol;">second beta of 6&period;8<&sol;a> was just released&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> There are <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;query&quest;status&equals;accepted&&num;038&semi;status&equals;assigned&&num;038&semi;status&equals;new&&num;038&semi;status&equals;reopened&&num;038&semi;status&equals;reviewing&&num;038&semi;focuses&equals;~performance&&num;038&semi;milestone&equals;6&period;8&&num;038&semi;col&equals;id&&num;038&semi;col&equals;summary&&num;038&semi;col&equals;status&&num;038&semi;col&equals;owner&&num;038&semi;col&equals;type&&num;038&semi;col&equals;priority&&num;038&semi;col&equals;milestone&&num;038&semi;order&equals;priority">5 performance tickets in the milestone<&sol;a>&period;&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;johnbillion&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>johnbillion<&sol;a> RE <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;63026">&num;63026<&sol;a>&comma; this is an issue with the performance of the tests due to the high number of user fixtures&comma; all of which generate and hash a password for the user with each fixture&period; The regular performance tests are not indicatiny any general performance regression&period; I think we can therefore remove the <code>performance<&sol;code> focus unless there’s an objection&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h2 class&equals;"wp-block-heading">Performance Lab plugins<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Discussing the upcoming release scheduled for <strong><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;timeanddate&period;com&sol;worldclock&sol;fixedtime&period;html&quest;iso&equals;20250317T1700"><abbr class&equals;"date" title&equals;"2025-03-17T17&colon;00&colon;00&plus;00&colon;00">Monday&comma; Mar 17&comma; 2025 at 17&colon;00 UTC<&sol;abbr><&sol;a><&sol;strong>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> Let’s start with the upcoming set of Performance Lab releases which is due March 17th&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> As <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;issues&sol;1853&num;issuecomment-2711374560">noted<&sol;a> by <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a>&comma; this release won’t actually include any update to the Performance Lab plugin itself&period; Instead there will be updates to Optimization Detective&comma; Image Prioritizer&comma; Embed Optimizer&comma; Speculative Loading&comma; and Modern Image Formats&period; Therefore&comma; he suggests that we take this as an opportunity move away from using the PL’s version for the release tags&period; In reality this should have been done long ago when we split up the plugin into standalone plugins&period; So instead of the release branch being <code>release&sol;4&period;0&period;0<&sol;code> it could instead be <code>release&sol;20250317<&sol;code>&period; The title of the release then I suppose would be <code>2025-03-17<&sol;code> as well&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> Does the release triggered manually as we didn’t release PL plugin&quest;&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> The GHA workflow doesn’t depend on releasing the PL plugin anymore&comma; right&quest; I mean&comma; ever since the plugin was split into standalone plugins&comma; I don’t think this was the case<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> It would feel a bit odd to have a release called 2025-03-17 in the GitHub releases page&comma; but I’d argue that’s only because of the previous releases using the PL version number&period; It’s already odd now in that each release is labelled by the PL version number&comma; but actually includes multiple releases using different versions&period; So I think that would be fine&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> We can include a note in the release description that explains the naming convention change&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> What happens in the future if we find ourselves in the same situation&quest; Will we use the release date again&quest;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> Yeah&comma; I think we’ll use dates from now on&period;&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> Are you saying we should use dates for the release branches and GH releases going forward even when PL is among the released plugins&quest; If we are going to do that&comma; we should modify the documentation in the Core Performance Handbook&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> Yes&comma; I think we should use dates going forward&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;swissspidy&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>swissspidy<&sol;a> Agreed&period; Would be even more confusing otherwise&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> There are 4 <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;milestones&quest;direction&equals;asc&&num;038&semi;sort&equals;due&lowbar;date&&num;038&semi;state&equals;open">milestones<&sol;a> for Monday which have issues&sol;PRs&colon;&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;milestone&sol;104">speculation-rules 1&period;5&period;0<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;milestone&sol;105">webp-uploads 2&period;5&period;1<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;milestone&sol;106">embed-optimizer 1&period;0&period;0-beta2<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;milestone&sol;107">optimization-detective 1&period;0&period;0-beta3<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> Looks like Modern Image Formats primarily just needs a couple tweaks prior to merging <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;pull&sol;1885">one PR<&sol;a>&period; It looks like the <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;pull&sol;1868">other PR<&sol;a> will need to get bumped&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> Regarding the changed branch naming and release naming strategy&comma; anyone up for updating the Make Core <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;handbook&sol;performance-lab&sol;releasing-the-plugin&sol;">Performance Handbook documentation<&sol;a> accordingly&quest;&NewLine;<ul class&equals;"wp-block-list">&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a> I can do it&period; I typically tweak the handbook after going through the release based on how it went&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> I have to share update on the accurate sizes project&colon; I picked it up and started working on it this week&period; The PR <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;1795">&num;1795<&sol;a> adds the ancestor block context and is ready for review&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<p><strong>Our next chat will be held on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;timeanddate&period;com&sol;worldclock&sol;fixedtime&period;html&quest;iso&equals;20250325T1600"><abbr class&equals;"date" title&equals;"2025-03-25T16&colon;00&colon;00&plus;00&colon;00">Tuesday&comma; Mar 25&comma; 2025 at 16&colon;00 UTC<&sol;abbr><&sol;a> in the <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;messages&sol;core-performance&sol;">&num;core-performance channel<&sol;a> in <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;chat&sol;">Slack<&sol;a><&sol;strong>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p class&equals;"o2-appended-tags"><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;core-performance&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>core-performance<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;hosting&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>hosting<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;performance&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>performance<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;performance-chat&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>performance-chat<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;summary&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>summary<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;div>&NewLine;

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