Performance Chat Summary: 1 August 2023

<div style&equals;"text-align&colon;center"><&sol;div><div>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;2023&sol;08&sol;01&sol;performance-chat-agenda-25-july-2023-2&sol;">Meeting agenda here<&sol;a> and the full chat log is available <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;archives&sol;C02KGN5K076&sol;p1690902037549099">beginning here on Slack<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2 class&equals;"wp-block-heading">Announcements<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>Welcome to our new members of <a href&equals;"http&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;messages&sol;core-performance&sol;">&num;core-performance<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>RC3 is scheduled for release later today<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>Video from the <a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;2023&sol;06&sol;29&sol;hallway-hangout-performance-improvements-for-wordpress-6-3&sol;" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">Hallway Hangout<&sol;a> that occurred last week is available for those who were not able to attend&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>Please read and leave feedback on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;2023&sol;08&sol;01&sol;proposal-improve-the-editor-tech-workflow-for-major-releases&sol;">this follow-up post<&sol;a> by <a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;team&sol;U03TCKSBT" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">&commat;tellthemachines<&sol;a> about how to improve the release workflow between the Gutenberg and Core repos during the release process<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h2 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"focus-group-updates">Priority Projects<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"images">Server Response Time<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-server-response-time">Link to roadmap projects<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;spacedmonkey&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>spacedmonkey<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;aristath&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>aristath<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;swissspidy&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>swissspidy<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a> and <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> are working on an exploration of how to improve template loading of classic and block themes&period; Ideas are welcome&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;swissspidy&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>swissspidy<&sol;a> is still looking for feedback on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;2023&sol;07&sol;24&sol;i18n-performance-analysis&sol;">this post about i18n performance improvements<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"images">Database Optimization<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-database-optimization">Link to roadmap projects<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;aristath&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>aristath<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;spacedmonkey&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>spacedmonkey<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;olliejones&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>olliejones<&sol;a> <&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>N&sol;A<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"object-caching">JavaScript &&num;038&semi; CSS<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-javascript-css">Link to roadmap project<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;10upsimon&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>10upsimon<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;adamsilverstein&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>adamsilverstein<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;weston&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>weston<&sol;a> has been working on adding async&sol;defer to more places in core&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>Merged <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;gutenberg&sol;pull&sol;52536">this PR<&sol;a> that used defer for all block view scripts<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;changeset&sol;56323">Committed<&sol;a> the use of <code>async<&sol;code> for the <code>comment-reply<&sol;code> script in core<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58931">Proposed<&sol;a> adding <code>defer<&sol;code> to the <code>wp-embed<&sol;code> script&comma; even though <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58931&num;comment&colon;3">his analysis <&sol;a>didn’t show much performance benefit&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;weston&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>weston<&sol;a> reported that now that HTTP Archive has <a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;HTTPArchive&sol;custom-metrics&sol;pull&sol;85" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">custom metrics for WordPress scripts<&sol;a>&comma; he’s been starting to dive into doing queries for how well sites are using the scripts API&comma; including to what degree they’re using <code>&dollar;in&lowbar;footer<&sol;code> and how many are currently using <code>async<&sol;code> and <code>defer<&sol;code> even before our official way of doing so<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>He’s also been doing some research into which specific plugins are responsible for those <code>blocking&lowbar;in&lowbar;head<&sol;code> scripts&period; So we’ll have some opportunities for ecosystem outreach hopefully soon<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>Review&sol;feedback on his HTTP Archive queries would be appreciated&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>Later in the meeting&comma; Weston followed up to share that Felix had identified a flaw in the query he was using go get counts of scripts using <code>async<&sol;code> and <code>defer<&sol;code> from the HTTP Archive&period; He plans to revise and share updated results<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"measurement">Images<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-images">Link to roadmap projects<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;thekt12&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>thekt12<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;adamsilverstein&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>adamsilverstein<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> opened several smaller follow-up tickets for the lazy-loading and fetchpriority work last week&colon;&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58891" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58891<&sol;a> &lpar;<a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;wordpress-develop&sol;pull&sol;4912">PR for review<&sol;a>&rpar;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a target&equals;"&lowbar;blank" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58892" rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58892<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a target&equals;"&lowbar;blank" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58893" rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58893<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58894" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58894<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a> added one additional&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58895">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58895<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<li>Plans to follow up on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58853">https&colon;&sol;&sol;core&period;trac&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;ticket&sol;58853<&sol;a><&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a> opened an issue in the Performance Lab repo for <a rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;issues&sol;791" target&equals;"&lowbar;blank">a module proposal to support auto-sizes for lazy-loaded images<&sol;a>&period; Feedback welcome&period;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"javascript">Measurement<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-measurement">Link to roadmap projects<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;adamsilverstein&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>adamsilverstein<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;olliejones&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>olliejones<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;joemcgill&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>joemcgill<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;swissspidy&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>swissspidy<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> plans to do another round of benchmarks for RC3 after the release today<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading">Ecosystem Tools<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;performance&sol;roadmap-2023&sol;&num;category-ecosystem-tools">Link to roadmap projects<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;swissspidy&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>swissspidy<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;westonruter&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>westonruter<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> has been working on some follow-up issues for the Plugin Checker and requested feedback&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li><a target&equals;"&lowbar;blank" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;10up&sol;plugin-check&sol;pull&sol;237" rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener">PR &num;237<&sol;a> – Ignore &period;git&comma; node&lowbar;modules&comma; and vendor directories from the checks<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a target&equals;"&lowbar;blank" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;10up&sol;plugin-check&sol;pull&sol;238" rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener">PR &num;238<&sol;a> – Fix errors detected by Plugin Checker<&sol;li>&NewLine;<li><a target&equals;"&lowbar;blank" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;10up&sol;plugin-check&sol;pull&sol;239" rel&equals;"noreferrer noopener">PR &num;239<&sol;a> – Incorrect display of readme&period;txt instead of readme&period;md in Plugin Readme check<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h3 class&equals;"wp-block-heading" id&equals;"infrastructure">Creating Standalone Plugins<&sol;h3>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;github&period;com&sol;WordPress&sol;performance&sol;issues&sol;656">Link to GitHub overview issue<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Contributors&colon; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;flixos90&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>flixos90<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;mukesh27&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>mukesh27<&sol;a> <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;profiles&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;10upsimon&sol;" class&equals;"mention"><span class&equals;"mentions-prefix">&commat;<&sol;span>10upsimon<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>N&sol;A<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<h1 class&equals;"wp-block-heading">Open Floor<&sol;h1>&NewLine;<ul>&NewLine;<li>N&sol;A<&sol;li>&NewLine;<&sol;ul>&NewLine;<p><strong>Our next chat will be held on <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;timeanddate&period;com&sol;worldclock&sol;fixedtime&period;html&quest;iso&equals;20230808T1500"><abbr class&equals;"date" title&equals;"2023-08-08T15&colon;00&colon;00&plus;00&colon;00">Tuesday&comma; August 8&comma; 2023 at 15&colon;00 UTC<&sol;abbr><&sol;a> in the <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;wordpress&period;slack&period;com&sol;messages&sol;core-performance&sol;">&num;core-performance channel<&sol;a> in <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;chat&sol;">Slack<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;strong><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p class&equals;"o2-appended-tags"><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;core-performance&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>core-performance<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;performance&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>performance<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;performance-chat&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>performance-chat<&sol;a>&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;make&period;wordpress&period;org&sol;core&sol;tag&sol;summary&sol;" class&equals;"tag"><span class&equals;"tag-prefix">&num;<&sol;span>summary<&sol;a><&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;div>&NewLine;

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